It is 9 pm
I am in my home ain China along with laoshr
He is training me in Chinese Language
Monday, December 1, 2008
Saturday, July 19, 2008
Entertainment
Have been getting lot of entertainment stuff by emails...Thought of putting it on the blog so that interested people can see.
My wife dresses to kill. She also cooks the same way.
-Henny Youngman
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My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.
-Rodney Dangerfield
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A good wife always forgives her husband when she's wrong.
-Milton Berle
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I bought my wife a new car. She called and said, "There was water in the carburetor."
I asked her, "Where's the car?"
She replied," In the lake."
-Henny Youngman
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The secret of a happy marriage remains a secret.
-Henny Youngman
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After a quarrel, a wife said to her husband, "You know, I was a fool when I married you."
The husband replied, "Yes, dear, but I was in love and didn't notice."
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When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her.
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I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months - I don't like to interrupt her.
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My girlfriend told me I should be more affectionate. So I got myself two girlfriends.
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A man said his credit card was stolen but he decided not to report it since the thief was spending much less than his wife did.
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Man is incomplete until he is married. Then he is finished.
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A little boy asked his father, "Daddy, how much does it cost to get married?"
The father replied, "I don't know son, I'm still paying."
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Young Son: Is it true, Dad, that in some parts of Africa a Man doesn't know his wife until he marries her?
Dad: That happens in every country, son.
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Then there was a man who said, "I never knew what real happiness was until I got married; then it was too late.
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A man placed an advertisement in the classifieds: "Wife wanted."
The next day he received a hundred letters.
They all said the same: "You can have mine."
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A woman was telling her friend, "I made my husband a Millionaire."
"And what was he before you married him?" asked the friend.
"A billionaire." she replied.
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Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.
Second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience.
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It's not true that married men live longer than single men.
It only seems longer.
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Losing a wife can be very hard. In my case, it was almost impossible.
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Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all.
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A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
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A man meets a genie. The genie tells him he can ask for whatever he wants, but his mother-in-law gets double of what he gets.
The man thinks for a moment and says," Okay, give me a million dollars and beat me till I'm half dead."
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The most effective way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget it once.
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First guy (proudly): "My wife's an angel!"
Second guy: "You're lucky, mine's still alive.
-- Archie
"A person should not be too honest. Straightt trees are cut first and Honest people are screwed first"
Next...
HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT KNOWING THESE THINGS?
Every day more money is printed for Monopoly than the US Treasury.
Men can read smaller print than women can; women can hear better.
Coca-Cola was originally green.
It is impossible to lick your elbow.
The state with the highest percentage of people who walk to work: Alaska
The world's youngest parents were 8 and 9 and lived in China in 1910.
The youngest pope was 11 years old.
111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321
"I am." is the shortest complete sentence in the English language.
Hershey's Kisses are called that because the machine that makes them
looks like it's kissing the conveyor belt.
Q. What do bulletproof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers, and laser
printers all have in common?
A. All invented by women.
Q. What is the only food that doesn't spoil?
A. Honey
Q. There are more collect calls on this day than any other day of the year?
A. Father's Day
Q. What is an activity performed by 40% of all people at a party?
A. Snoop in your medicine cabinet.
In Shakespeare's time, mattresses were secured on bed frames by ropes.
When you pulled on the ropes the mattress tightened, making the bed firmer
to sleep on. Hence the phrase "goodnight, sleep tight".
It was the accepted practice in Babylon 4,000 years ago that for a month
after the wedding, the bride's father would supply his son-in-law with all
the mead he could drink. Mead is a honey beer and because their calendar was
lunar based, this period was called the honey month we know today as the
honeymoon.
In English pubs, ale is ordered by pints and quarts. So in old England,
when customers got unruly, the bartender would yell at them mind their own
pints and quarts and settle down. It's where we get the phrase "mind your
P's and Q's"
Many years ago in England, pub frequenters had a whistle baked into the rim
or handle of their ceramic cups.
When they needed a refill, they used the whistle to get some service. "Wet
your whistle" is the phrase inspired by this practice
In Scotland, a new game was invented. It was entitled :
Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden ...
and thus the word GOLF entered into the English language.
AND FINALLY...................................................
*At least 75% of people who read this will TRY to lick their elbows !!!*
Next...
My wife dresses to kill. She also cooks the same way.
-Henny Youngman
--------------------
My wife and I were happy for twenty years. Then we met.
-Rodney Dangerfield
--------------------
A good wife always forgives her husband when she's wrong.
-Milton Berle
--------------------
I bought my wife a new car. She called and said, "There was water in the carburetor."
I asked her, "Where's the car?"
She replied," In the lake."
-Henny Youngman
---------------------
The secret of a happy marriage remains a secret.
-Henny Youngman
----------------------
After a quarrel, a wife said to her husband, "You know, I was a fool when I married you."
The husband replied, "Yes, dear, but I was in love and didn't notice."
----------------------
When a man steals your wife, there is no better revenge than to let him keep her.
---------------------
I haven't spoken to my wife in 18 months - I don't like to interrupt her.
-------------------
My girlfriend told me I should be more affectionate. So I got myself two girlfriends.
-------------------
A man said his credit card was stolen but he decided not to report it since the thief was spending much less than his wife did.
--------------------
Man is incomplete until he is married. Then he is finished.
--------------------
A little boy asked his father, "Daddy, how much does it cost to get married?"
The father replied, "I don't know son, I'm still paying."
--------------------
Young Son: Is it true, Dad, that in some parts of Africa a Man doesn't know his wife until he marries her?
Dad: That happens in every country, son.
-------------------
Then there was a man who said, "I never knew what real happiness was until I got married; then it was too late.
--------------------
A man placed an advertisement in the classifieds: "Wife wanted."
The next day he received a hundred letters.
They all said the same: "You can have mine."
-------------------
A woman was telling her friend, "I made my husband a Millionaire."
"And what was he before you married him?" asked the friend.
"A billionaire." she replied.
--------------------
Marriage is the triumph of imagination over intelligence.
Second marriage is the triumph of hope over experience.
--------------------
It's not true that married men live longer than single men.
It only seems longer.
--------------------
Losing a wife can be very hard. In my case, it was almost impossible.
------------------
Just think, if it weren't for marriage, men would go through life thinking they had no faults at all.
-------------------
A successful man is one who makes more money than his wife can spend. A successful woman is one who can find such a man.
--------------------
A man meets a genie. The genie tells him he can ask for whatever he wants, but his mother-in-law gets double of what he gets.
The man thinks for a moment and says," Okay, give me a million dollars and beat me till I'm half dead."
-------------------
The most effective way to remember your wife's birthday is to forget it once.
--------------------
First guy (proudly): "My wife's an angel!"
Second guy: "You're lucky, mine's still alive.
-- Archie
"A person should not be too honest. Straightt trees are cut first and Honest people are screwed first"
Next...
HOW CAN YOU LIVE WITHOUT KNOWING THESE THINGS?
Every day more money is printed for Monopoly than the US Treasury.
Men can read smaller print than women can; women can hear better.
Coca-Cola was originally green.
It is impossible to lick your elbow.
The state with the highest percentage of people who walk to work: Alaska
The world's youngest parents were 8 and 9 and lived in China in 1910.
The youngest pope was 11 years old.
111,111,111 x 111,111,111 = 12,345,678,987,654,321
"I am." is the shortest complete sentence in the English language.
Hershey's Kisses are called that because the machine that makes them
looks like it's kissing the conveyor belt.
Q. What do bulletproof vests, fire escapes, windshield wipers, and laser
printers all have in common?
A. All invented by women.
Q. What is the only food that doesn't spoil?
A. Honey
Q. There are more collect calls on this day than any other day of the year?
A. Father's Day
Q. What is an activity performed by 40% of all people at a party?
A. Snoop in your medicine cabinet.
In Shakespeare's time, mattresses were secured on bed frames by ropes.
When you pulled on the ropes the mattress tightened, making the bed firmer
to sleep on. Hence the phrase "goodnight, sleep tight".
It was the accepted practice in Babylon 4,000 years ago that for a month
after the wedding, the bride's father would supply his son-in-law with all
the mead he could drink. Mead is a honey beer and because their calendar was
lunar based, this period was called the honey month we know today as the
honeymoon.
In English pubs, ale is ordered by pints and quarts. So in old England,
when customers got unruly, the bartender would yell at them mind their own
pints and quarts and settle down. It's where we get the phrase "mind your
P's and Q's"
Many years ago in England, pub frequenters had a whistle baked into the rim
or handle of their ceramic cups.
When they needed a refill, they used the whistle to get some service. "Wet
your whistle" is the phrase inspired by this practice
In Scotland, a new game was invented. It was entitled :
Gentlemen Only, Ladies Forbidden ...
and thus the word GOLF entered into the English language.
AND FINALLY...................................................
*At least 75% of people who read this will TRY to lick their elbows !!!*
Next...
1. Cigarette: A pinch of tobacco rolled in paper with fire at one end & afool at the other. 2. Love affairs: Something like cricket where one-day internationals aremore popular than a five day test. 3. Marriage: It's an agreement in which a man loses his bachelor degree anda woman gains her master 4. Divorce: Future tense of marriage 5. Lecture: An art of transferring information from the notes of thelecturer to the notes of the students without passing through "the mindsofeither". 6. Conference: The confusion of one man multiplied by the number present. 7. Compromise: The art of dividing a cake in such a way that everybodybelieves he got the biggest piece. 8. Tears: The hydraulic force by which masculine will-power is defeated byfeminine water-power... 9. Dictionary: A place where divorce comes before marriage. 10. Conference Room: A place where everybody talks, nobody listens &everybody disagrees later on. 11. Ecstasy: A feeling when you feel you are going to feel a feeling youhave never felt before. 12. Classic: books which people praise, but do not read. 13. Smile: A curve that can set a lot of things straight. 14. Office: A place where you can relax after your strenuous home life. 15. Yawn: The only time some married men ever get to open their mouth. 16. Etc.: A sign to make others believe that you know more than youactually do. 17. Committee: Individuals who can do nothing individually and sit todecide that nothing can be done together. 18. Experience: The name men give to their mistakes. 19. Atom Bomb: An invention to end all inventions. 20. Philosopher: A fool who torments himself during life, to be spoken ofwhen dead. 21. Diplomat: A person who tells you to go to hell in such a way that youactually look forward to the trip. 22. Opportunist: A person who starts taking bath if he accidentally fallsinto a river. 23. Optimist: A person who while falling from Eiffel Tower says in midway"See I am not injured yet." 24. Pessimist: A person who says that O is the last letter in ZERO, insteadof the first letter in word OPPORTUNITY. 25. Miser: A person who lives poor so that he can die rich. 26. Father: A banker provided by nature. 27. Criminal: A guy no different from the rest... except that he gotcaught. 28. Boss: Someone who is early when you are late and late when you areearly. 29. Politician: One who shakes your hand before elections and yourConfidence after? 30. Doctor: A person who kills your ills by pills, and kills you with hisbills. 31. Computer Engineer: One who gets paid for reading such mails...
Next...
USE YOUR GREY CELLS
Think! Think! Think! - Use your Grey Cells and Enjoy !!!
1. There is a man that lives on the top floor of a very tall building. Everyday he gets the elevator down to the ground floor to leave the building to go to work. Upon returning from work though, he can only travel half way up in the lift and has to walk the rest of the way unless it's raining! WHY?
This is probably the best known and most celebrated of all lateral thinking puzzles. It is a true classic. Although there are many possible solutions which fit the initial conditions, only the canonical answer is truly satisfying.
2. A man and his son are in a car accident. The father dies on the scene, but the child is rushed to the hospital. When he arrives the surgeon says "I can't operate on this boy, he is my son!" How can this be?
3. A man is wearing black. Black shoes, socks, trousers, jumper, gloves and balaclava. He is walking down a black street with all the street lamps off. A black car is coming towards him with its light off too but somehow manages to stop in time. How did the driver see the man?
4. The Elder Twin One day Kerry celebrated her birthday. Two days later her older twin brother, Terry, celebrated his birthday. Why?
5. Manhole Covers: Why is it better to have round manhole covers than square ones? This illogical rather than lateral, but it is a good puzzle which can be solved by lateral thinking techniques. It is supposedly used by a very well-known software company as an interview question for prospective employees.
6. The Deadly Party: A man went to a party and drank some of the punch. He then left early. Everyone else at the party who drank the punch subsequently died of poisoning. Why did the man not die?
7. Trouble with Sons: A woman had two sons who were born on the same hour of the same day of the same year. But they were not twins. How could this be so?
8. The Man in the Bar: A man walks into a bar and asks the barman for a glass of water. The barman pulls out a gun and points it at the man. The man says 'Thank you' and walks out. This puzzle has claims to be the best of the genre. It is simple in its statement, absolutely baffling and yet with a completely satisfying solution. Most people struggle very hard to solve this one yet they like the answer when they hear it or have the satisfaction of figuring it out
SOLUTIONS:
1) The man is very very short and so can only reach half way up the lift buttons! However, if it is raining then he will have his umbrella with him and so can press the higher buttons with it.
2) The surgeon is the boy's mother.
3) It was day time.
4) At the time she went into labour, the mother of the twins was travelling by boat. The older twin, Terry, was born first early on March 1st. The boat then crossed a time zone and Kerry, the younger twin, was born on February the 28th. Therefore, the younger twin celebrates her birthday two days before her older brother.
5) A square manhole cover can be turned and dropped down the diagonal of the manhole. A round manhole cannot be dropped down the manhole. So for safety and practicality, all manhole covers should be round.
6) The poison in the punch came from the ice cubes. When the man drank the punch, the ice was fully frozen. Gradually it melted, poisoning the punch.
7) They were two of a set of triplets (or quadruplets etc.) This puzzle stumps many people. They try outlandish solutions involving test-tube babies or surrogate mothers. Why does the brain go for complex solutions when there is a much simpler one available?
8) The man had hiccups. The barman recognized this from his speech and drew the gun in order to give him a shock. It worked and cured the hiccups-so the man no longer needed the water. This is a simple puzzle to state but a difficult one to solve. It is a perfect example of a seemingly irrational and incongruous situation having a simple and complete explanation.
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Saturday, February 16, 2008
India Vs China
India vs. China: Who Has the Edge? by Jeremy Siegel, Ph.D. Email this Page IM this StoryBookmark this StoryAdd to your Del.icio.us accountDigg this StoryPrint this Story Very Good (26 Ratings) 3.30769/5 Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006, 12:00AM China and India are likely to be the dominant economic powers by the middle of this century but in many respects they are remarkably different. Here and in my next column I will analyze the prospects for economic growth and investment in these two emerging giants based in part on a two-week tour of India I just completed and a visit to China eighteen months earlier. First Impressions Can Be Deceiving The contrast between your first impression of China and India could scarcely be more extreme. You arrive at China's financial capital, Shanghai's new Pudong International Airport, and walk through spacious, clean corridors to the world's fastest train, the Maglev. Your 30 km (18.6 miles) trip takes only eight minutes on this train that floats magnetically above the tracks and reaches speeds of 430 kph (267 miles per hour). From the Longyang Road Metro Station at the outskirts of the city, an air-conditioned taxi takes you to the Grand Hyatt Hotel. As you exit the car you marvel at the other towering skyscrapers that surround the world's highest hotel, located on the 53rd to 87th floors of the Jin Mao Tower. Contrast that with a trip to Mumbai, the financial capital of India. You arrive at the decrepit Mumbai International Airport, fight your way through crowds of beggars and unsolicited "helpers" before finding a taxi that takes to you your hotel at the southern edge of Mumbai. Although the trip is only 20 km (12.4 miles), the ride may take 90 minutes or more. There is no direct route as the driver wends his way through side streets trying to find the least crowded route. Abject poverty lines the road. Millions have flocked to this city seeking employment, many with only tents or cardboard walls as housing. No sanitation facilities are to be seen. When the traffic stops, young children and women holding babies approach your car, tapping on the windows, begging for a few rupees. As you progress to the southern end of the city, more substantial buildings come into view. Yet the vast majority of the structures, especially the rental units, are poorly constructed and dirty from the daily assault of polluted air. Most of the architecture of note in Mumbai was built before the First World War, primarily by the British. You finally arrive at your hotel, The Taj Palace on the Arabian Sea, built in 1903. From these two realities one might wonder why anyone would ever consider investing in India over China. Ranking the two countries on infrastructure - roads, airports, and new buildings, China looks like a ten and India hovers close to zero. Winds are Changing But India is changing, and changing rapidly. The Mumbai Stock Exchange's Index of 30 blue chip companies has more than tripled in the last 2½ years, far outpacing the China's stock returns. And although China's stupendous economic growth rate still surpasses India's, India has now reached the 6% plus rate of GDP growth that marks the emergence of a developing country. What has caused this new look at India? Underneath the surface, India's ledger is lined with pluses that compensate for its woeful exterior. Language, Government and Freedom of the Press In my last column I described the ideal growth environment: free access to information and the freedom to act on this information in a climate that respects wealth creation. Although I in no way condone the British occupation and control of India for several centuries until 1947, three British legacies -- the English language, Democracy, and Freedom of the Press -- benefit many Indians today. The fact that the educated classes all know English gives Indians a comparative advantage in the growing informational sciences and services, while the Chinese advantage still resides in manufacturing. The world's ¬lingua franca, especially in the business and scientific world, is English and that unquestionably gives a leg up to those who know it. Our guide in Jodhpur said that there are two things that he wants his son to learn in school: English and computers. That knowledge, he said, opened up the opportunities for his people. It surprised me that the English language is not taught to many Indians below the top echelon. As you travel from the big cities to countryside, the signs change from predominantly English to almost entirely Hindi. And Hindi still remains the language most Indians speak to natives even if they know English. The ability to speak Hindi may therefore be essential for foreigners who wish to work in India. Indians were proud when President Bush recently added Hindi as a "world language" that Americans (who woefully lack foreign language skills), should learn if they wish to succeed in global markets. Government Eighteen months ago, when I offered an excited view of China's commercial future, doubters frequently asked: "How is this possible under an avowedly 'communist' government." I believe China will evolve into a more democratic political system as it pulls itself out of poverty and feels the pressure of a growing middle class. Although this political evolution is likely, it is by no means a sure thing. Yet for India a democracy already exists, and it has withstood many crises. Furthermore India enjoys an independent judiciary, a critical adjunct to a democratic system. Democracy is the best system in which power can evolve from the private sector, not from dictates of the government. As far as the politics are concerned, there are no reservations about India. Rule of Law and Meritocracy It is well known that the Chinese are master copiers, and openly sell merchandise sporting pirated designer labels or hawk intellectual property that is easily downloaded in our digital world. Although this also exists in India, it does so to a far lesser extent. Private enterprise, private property and the rule of law has been the norm in India since the British occupation. In contrast, until recently, the Chinese government owned and controlled everything. It surprises many that Lakshmi Mittal, an Indian-born steel magnate, is the 3rd richest man in the world after Bill Gates and Warren Buffett. In fact, in Forbes' latest list of the world's wealthiest people, 12 Indians made the list and only two Chinese. And there is a growing consensus in India that this wealth creation can help everybody rise, not just those at the top. Education India is built on a meritocracy where performance on exams dictates jobs and admission to the top-ranked schools. At the top, India's education system is as good as any, and the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT) rivals MIT as the world's producer of top scientists. Furthermore the Indian Institute of Management recently had 200,000 applications for only 250 seats at its top Ahmedabad campus, a ratio that puts the Ivy League' selectivity to shame. Although India does have an "affirmative action" program for those in the lowest castes, the private sector is not subject to these quotas and therefore is free to hire "the best and the brightest." There's no doubt that China is also developing top schools, both in science and in business. The latter is particularly important to China since the Communist system is filled with managers of state-owned enterprises that are woefully inadequate in a private-sector economy. India is ahead of China in this area. Indian education at the lower levels is not nearly as good as at the top. In fact, several experts I talked to put "education" above "infrastructure" and India's number one priority. Nevertheless, the excellence of education at the top has given Indians a great deal of pride in their ability to achieve world-class excellence, and it has been a strong democratizing influence in a society that has been mired in a rigidly hierarchical caste system. Where's the Money? India lags in the hard infrastructure of roads, airports, and buildings, but leads in the "soft" infrastructure of democratic institutions, free press, and an independent judiciary. In the next column I will examine other aspects of business China and India: the networking relationships in Chinese business, the banking sector, demography, and business confidence. Then I will answer the question: "Where are the best opportunities today: India or China?"
India vs. China: Where to Invest? by Jeremy Siegel, Ph.D. Email this Page IM this StoryBookmark this StoryAdd to your Del.icio.us accountDigg this StoryPrint this Story Very Good (6 Ratings) 3.666666/5 Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006, 12:00AM Leaving Zurich's international airport on the way for the World Economic Forum, visitors confront a huge billboard declaring: "India: The Fastest Growing Free Market Democracy." India was a key sponsor of the 2006 Davos Forum, and its direct jab at China, witnessed in prime time by the world's elite, signals just how fierce the competition for the world's investment capital has become. India's bragging rights were inconceivable just a few years ago. As recently as June, 2003, The Economist magazine ran a cover story "India v China: A Tiger, Falling behind a Dragon." In that article, the magazine indicated that in 1980, India's GDP was greater than China's and its per capita income was some 60% higher. Yet by 2003 the situation reversed, as China's economy soared ahead of India and sported per capita income some 50% higher. But in recent years India's economy is rising again and the Tiger is making a run at the Dragon. Investor Confidence The sudden interest in India has boosted the country's self-confidence. Grant Thornton, a leading international audit and consulting firm, carries out a survey of business confidence of more than 7000 owners of medium-sized businesses from 30 countries. Surprisingly, India ranks number one, ahead of the G8 economies, China, and Europe's "Celtic Tiger," Ireland. As I reported in my last column, India lags China in the hard infrastructure of roads, airports, and real estate, but it leads in the "soft" infrastructure of democratic institutions, free press, and an independent judiciary. What other factors favor India? Banking and Finance India's long experience with a free market enabled it to gain significant experience in lending and raising capital. This is not the case in China. Until recently China's banks were in business to funnel loans to woeful state-run enterprises. There were no incentives for these loans to be repaid, and now banks are crippled with an estimated $213 billion of non-performing loans. In contrast, India's major banks are thriving and ICICI Bank, India's second largest, is considered one of the best run in Asia. More than 6,000 firms are listed on the Bombay Stock Exchange, far outnumbering the number in China and more than double the number on listed on our New York Exchange. Furthermore, investors in China's stock markets in Shanghai and Shenzhen have performed miserably over the past decade as overpriced stocks flooded the markets. In contrast, Bombay's stock market has been booming. Business Relationships Trust is certainly an important component of any business relationship. But one aspect of Chinese culture that disturbs me is called guanxi, a network of business and social relationships among various parties who are expected to exchange favors regularly and voluntarily. Although it is wrong to interpret this practice as "bribery," since these exchanges need not involve money, I worry that these networks can be used to shut out those that don't "fit into" an approved Chinese social circle. Guanxi, when combined with the corruption that permeates the Chinese economy, make a truly competitive economy difficult, if not impossible to achieve. For India, these social networks and corruption are less of a problem. To be sure, dishonesty still exists in government service, but high level corruption is being vigorously rooted out by a free press that is absent in China. Perhaps the greatest strength of a free market economy is its openness to do business with anyone who has the qualifications and desire to do a job, regardless of ethnic or social backgrounds. America is so attractive to so many immigrants who have been shut out of opportunities in their own homelands because of our openness. Guanxi combined with the uncertain new laws defining private property and business contracts in a still-Communist China should be a source of concern to investors. Demography Perhaps the most positive aspect of India's future is its demography: India is a very young country, while China, because of its one-child policy, is rapidly aging. According to the UN demographic Commission, by the middle of this century the most densely populated age group in India will be those aged 40 to 50, while in China it will be those aged 55 to 65. This means China will soon start to suffer the same problems as Japan, Western Europe and the United States: an excessive number of retirees relative to the working population. The young have the flexibility to adapt, absorb, conceptualize, and innovate. This is the key ingredient of technological and economic progress. China has a large supply of new workers for private enterprises, but these workers are leaving state-owned enterprises and are older and are not as adaptable as the young labor market in India. The late management guru, Peter Drucker, said that demography is the "future that happened." Population trends are not easily reversible, and here the advantage goes to India. India or China? With all these points favoring India, the answer to the question, "Where should your money go?" may seem like a forgone conclusion: India has the best prospects for investors. But, as I explain in my book, The Future for Investors, there are two aspects to every investor decision. First you must size up the prospects for the firm, the sector, or the country. On this score, India scores some high marks. But you must also evaluate the price that you are paying for these prospects. India's investment climate looks ripe for growth, but the markets have recognized this and have pushed stock prices upward. The Sensex 30, India's best-known stock market index and analogous to our Dow-Jones Industrial Index, was only 3300 in December 2002 but on February 6, 2006, the index broke through 10,000 for the first time. A Question of Value The price-to-earnings ratio on this index has reached 21, while Chinese stocks on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange are selling for only 15 times earnings. Goldman Sachs Asia Pacific Strategy recently indicated that it thinks valuation has turned the tide toward China. In a December review of the Asian markets Goldman stated, "We remain bullish long term [on India], but are market weight given the stretched valuations [and other factors]." In contrast Goldman's Asia team remains overweight in Chinese equities due to the cheaper valuations. Both India and China have enormous promise and I would certainly own stocks from each of these countries in a long-run portfolio. But India's edge is no secret and future returns will not match the stellar gains of the last three years. And remember, all the developing markets, no matter how promising, contain considerable risk. In a later column I will advise readers on how to build a global portfolio that will balance growth prospects with these risks.
Best Regards
India vs. China: Where to Invest? by Jeremy Siegel, Ph.D. Email this Page IM this StoryBookmark this StoryAdd to your Del.icio.us accountDigg this StoryPrint this Story Very Good (6 Ratings) 3.666666/5 Posted on Thursday, February 9, 2006, 12:00AM Leaving Zurich's international airport on the way for the World Economic Forum, visitors confront a huge billboard declaring: "India: The Fastest Growing Free Market Democracy." India was a key sponsor of the 2006 Davos Forum, and its direct jab at China, witnessed in prime time by the world's elite, signals just how fierce the competition for the world's investment capital has become. India's bragging rights were inconceivable just a few years ago. As recently as June, 2003, The Economist magazine ran a cover story "India v China: A Tiger, Falling behind a Dragon." In that article, the magazine indicated that in 1980, India's GDP was greater than China's and its per capita income was some 60% higher. Yet by 2003 the situation reversed, as China's economy soared ahead of India and sported per capita income some 50% higher. But in recent years India's economy is rising again and the Tiger is making a run at the Dragon. Investor Confidence The sudden interest in India has boosted the country's self-confidence. Grant Thornton, a leading international audit and consulting firm, carries out a survey of business confidence of more than 7000 owners of medium-sized businesses from 30 countries. Surprisingly, India ranks number one, ahead of the G8 economies, China, and Europe's "Celtic Tiger," Ireland. As I reported in my last column, India lags China in the hard infrastructure of roads, airports, and real estate, but it leads in the "soft" infrastructure of democratic institutions, free press, and an independent judiciary. What other factors favor India? Banking and Finance India's long experience with a free market enabled it to gain significant experience in lending and raising capital. This is not the case in China. Until recently China's banks were in business to funnel loans to woeful state-run enterprises. There were no incentives for these loans to be repaid, and now banks are crippled with an estimated $213 billion of non-performing loans. In contrast, India's major banks are thriving and ICICI Bank, India's second largest, is considered one of the best run in Asia. More than 6,000 firms are listed on the Bombay Stock Exchange, far outnumbering the number in China and more than double the number on listed on our New York Exchange. Furthermore, investors in China's stock markets in Shanghai and Shenzhen have performed miserably over the past decade as overpriced stocks flooded the markets. In contrast, Bombay's stock market has been booming. Business Relationships Trust is certainly an important component of any business relationship. But one aspect of Chinese culture that disturbs me is called guanxi, a network of business and social relationships among various parties who are expected to exchange favors regularly and voluntarily. Although it is wrong to interpret this practice as "bribery," since these exchanges need not involve money, I worry that these networks can be used to shut out those that don't "fit into" an approved Chinese social circle. Guanxi, when combined with the corruption that permeates the Chinese economy, make a truly competitive economy difficult, if not impossible to achieve. For India, these social networks and corruption are less of a problem. To be sure, dishonesty still exists in government service, but high level corruption is being vigorously rooted out by a free press that is absent in China. Perhaps the greatest strength of a free market economy is its openness to do business with anyone who has the qualifications and desire to do a job, regardless of ethnic or social backgrounds. America is so attractive to so many immigrants who have been shut out of opportunities in their own homelands because of our openness. Guanxi combined with the uncertain new laws defining private property and business contracts in a still-Communist China should be a source of concern to investors. Demography Perhaps the most positive aspect of India's future is its demography: India is a very young country, while China, because of its one-child policy, is rapidly aging. According to the UN demographic Commission, by the middle of this century the most densely populated age group in India will be those aged 40 to 50, while in China it will be those aged 55 to 65. This means China will soon start to suffer the same problems as Japan, Western Europe and the United States: an excessive number of retirees relative to the working population. The young have the flexibility to adapt, absorb, conceptualize, and innovate. This is the key ingredient of technological and economic progress. China has a large supply of new workers for private enterprises, but these workers are leaving state-owned enterprises and are older and are not as adaptable as the young labor market in India. The late management guru, Peter Drucker, said that demography is the "future that happened." Population trends are not easily reversible, and here the advantage goes to India. India or China? With all these points favoring India, the answer to the question, "Where should your money go?" may seem like a forgone conclusion: India has the best prospects for investors. But, as I explain in my book, The Future for Investors, there are two aspects to every investor decision. First you must size up the prospects for the firm, the sector, or the country. On this score, India scores some high marks. But you must also evaluate the price that you are paying for these prospects. India's investment climate looks ripe for growth, but the markets have recognized this and have pushed stock prices upward. The Sensex 30, India's best-known stock market index and analogous to our Dow-Jones Industrial Index, was only 3300 in December 2002 but on February 6, 2006, the index broke through 10,000 for the first time. A Question of Value The price-to-earnings ratio on this index has reached 21, while Chinese stocks on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange are selling for only 15 times earnings. Goldman Sachs Asia Pacific Strategy recently indicated that it thinks valuation has turned the tide toward China. In a December review of the Asian markets Goldman stated, "We remain bullish long term [on India], but are market weight given the stretched valuations [and other factors]." In contrast Goldman's Asia team remains overweight in Chinese equities due to the cheaper valuations. Both India and China have enormous promise and I would certainly own stocks from each of these countries in a long-run portfolio. But India's edge is no secret and future returns will not match the stellar gains of the last three years. And remember, all the developing markets, no matter how promising, contain considerable risk. In a later column I will advise readers on how to build a global portfolio that will balance growth prospects with these risks.
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China 2007
China 2007
Chinese economy expanded by 11.4% YOY to $3.4 trillion …5th consecutive year of double digit growth, retaining 4th position after US, Japan and Germany. This is a combined result of investment boom, a record trade surplus and pickup in consumption.
Trade surplus ballooned to $262 billion (up 47.7%)
Urban fixed asset investment growth was 25.8 %( 24.3% in 2006)
Retail sales growth rose 16.8% (from 13.7% in 2006)
Industrial output increased by 18.5 %( up 1.9% over 2006)
Inflation surged to 4.8% (from 1.5% in 2006). Peoples bank of China raised interest rates 6 times during 2007. CRR was raised 10 times to a record high of 14.5%.
Grain production reached bumper production 502 million tons…4th consecutive year of high production.
Trade volume increased 23.5% (slightly down from 2006)
Disposable income of urban residents rose 9.8% to $1900 and net cash income of farmers rose by 6.8% to 572$.
Unemployment rate dropped to 4% (from 4.1% in 2006). The country created 51 million employment opportunities.
Number of college students rose by 20% to 17.4 million.
Total installed electricity generation capacity increased 350 million kW.
28000 km of highways were built.
Energy consumption / unit of GDP were brought down by 3% and SO2 and chemical oxygen dropped 1st time.Income tax for both Chinese funded and foreign funded enterprises will be same at 25%.Labour Contract Law and Employment Promotion law adopted for protecting rights of the people."Made in China" phrase suffered from unprecedented "crisis of confidence" in 2007. Recall of China made toys by "Mitel Inc." triggered the fuse...products ranging from tooth paste to food. Four month nation wide campaign launched to restore confidence.
Economy is expected to slow down to 10% GDP growth, in 2008. Central government implemented series of administrative measures to cool down economy, reduce over dependence on export and move to more sustainable domestically driven growth.
Chinese economy expanded by 11.4% YOY to $3.4 trillion …5th consecutive year of double digit growth, retaining 4th position after US, Japan and Germany. This is a combined result of investment boom, a record trade surplus and pickup in consumption.
Trade surplus ballooned to $262 billion (up 47.7%)
Urban fixed asset investment growth was 25.8 %( 24.3% in 2006)
Retail sales growth rose 16.8% (from 13.7% in 2006)
Industrial output increased by 18.5 %( up 1.9% over 2006)
Inflation surged to 4.8% (from 1.5% in 2006). Peoples bank of China raised interest rates 6 times during 2007. CRR was raised 10 times to a record high of 14.5%.
Grain production reached bumper production 502 million tons…4th consecutive year of high production.
Trade volume increased 23.5% (slightly down from 2006)
Disposable income of urban residents rose 9.8% to $1900 and net cash income of farmers rose by 6.8% to 572$.
Unemployment rate dropped to 4% (from 4.1% in 2006). The country created 51 million employment opportunities.
Number of college students rose by 20% to 17.4 million.
Total installed electricity generation capacity increased 350 million kW.
28000 km of highways were built.
Energy consumption / unit of GDP were brought down by 3% and SO2 and chemical oxygen dropped 1st time.Income tax for both Chinese funded and foreign funded enterprises will be same at 25%.Labour Contract Law and Employment Promotion law adopted for protecting rights of the people."Made in China" phrase suffered from unprecedented "crisis of confidence" in 2007. Recall of China made toys by "Mitel Inc." triggered the fuse...products ranging from tooth paste to food. Four month nation wide campaign launched to restore confidence.
Economy is expected to slow down to 10% GDP growth, in 2008. Central government implemented series of administrative measures to cool down economy, reduce over dependence on export and move to more sustainable domestically driven growth.
About China ...2006
Chinese Economy - 2006 Grows to 3rd Largest in the World after US, Japan, Chiina, Germany, uk, france, italy
China said Thursday that its economy grew 10.7 percent in 2006, the fastest pace in more than a decade, amid growing signs of inflation.
The stronger-than-expected growth was largely propelled by soaring exports, stronger retail sales, a manufacturing boom and huge investments in new buildings, roads and cities.
But the economy continues to charge ahead, climbing from 9.1 percent in 2002 to 10.4 percent in 2005 and 10.7 percent last year, the fourth consecutive year of double-digit economic growth.
Beijing is also under pressure to allow the Chinese currency, known as the yuan or renminbi, to appreciate more quickly against the dollar in the hopes of easing the country's mammoth trade surplus with the United States.
The yuan has appreciated against the dollar, strengthening to 7.77 yuan to the dollar Thursday from 8.26 in 2005.
I'd say 2006 was about the best year in a decade — fast growth and low inflation," said Shen Minggao, an economist at Citigroup in Beijing. "This is impressive."
Stock prices are another concern. After falling to their lowest level in six years in mid-2005, stock prices in Shanghai have nearly tripled in a record run.
The Chinese central bank said that for the first time in five years, bank savings of mainland residents slid in October from the month before as more money went into the stock market.
“China’s gross domestic product (GDP) totalled nearly 20.95 trillion yuan (US$2.7 trillion) in 2006, 10.7 percent more than in 2005, according to figures provided by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) on January 25, 2007. This was the largest growth spurt since 1995,
China’s fixed-asset investments totalled 10.99 trillion yuan (US$1.41 trillion) in 2006, up 24 percent for the year
Consumer spending grew more slowly, suggesting China still faces challenges in its effort to reduce reliance on exports and to narrow its trade gap by boosting domestic consumption. China’s consumer price index (CPI) grew by 1.5 percent in 2006 over the previous year, the NBS reported. The growth rate was three-tenths of a percentage point lower than the previous year.
The value-added output of all industrial enterprises in China grew 12.5 percent year-on-year in 2006,
China’s retail sales increased by 13.7 percent to 7.64 trillion yuan (US$979.62 billion) in 2006,
Chinese urban and rural residents both experienced double-digit growth in their incomes in 2006, the NBS reported. Urban residents in China earned 11,759 yuan (US$1,500) in per-capita disposable income in 2006, up 12.1 percent from the year earlier, according to the NBS. In 2006, rural residents in China saw their incomes increase by 10.2 percent to 3,587 yuan (US$460).
“Auto Industry
There were 117 passenger vehicle types on the Chinese market in 2006. More than 30 of them used domestically developed design ideas, including the Chang’an’ Benben, Chery’s QQ6, the Hongqi HQ3, FAW Car’s Besturn and Brilliance China Auto’s Zhonghua Junjie. Since China entered the WTO in 2001, auto sales have increased by an annual average of 36 percent.
China has become the fourth-largest auto manufacturing country in the world. There are more than 5,800 auto and auto part manufacturers with combined assets of over 1 trillion yuan (US$126 billion) today
Biotech
China is becoming more influential in the global biotech industry. US and European scientists may increasingly notice that many of the test tubes and tips and certain reagents used in their laboratories have been manufactured in China. But many executives may not recognize the name BioAsia Company––a Shanghai-based bio-services provider that the US biotech product and service giant Invitrogen Corporation recently acquired. They may also be unaware that SiBiono GeneTech Company Limited, the first company in the world to receive regulatory approval by any agency for a gene therapy, is based in Shenzhen.
“Solar-Powered Energy
The solar-powered energy industry is growing in China as the country seeks clean, cheap and renewable sources of energy. A solar energy system jointly constructed by BP and its Chinese partners was successfully put into operation in 2005 at the Shenzhen International Garden and Flower Exposition,
In 2004, Suntech, based in Wuxi, Jiangsu Province, became the first “solar energy concept” stock to be traded on Wall Street;
Semiconductors
Vimicro became the first Chinese semiconductor firm to trade shares on the NASDAQ when it went public on November 15, 2005. Vimcro’s NASDAQ listing was followed by an initial public offering (IPO) by Actions Semiconductor Company, another Chinese chip-design firm. Both IPOs fell short of expectations. This indicated that it will likely take time for investors to understand the profitability of Chinese chip design enterprises. Chip design is the highest value-added business in the semiconductor industry, accounting for 40 percent of the value chain.
By 2004, there were 421 chip design firms throughout the country, with total annual revenues of 8.15 billion yuan (US$1 billion
China said Thursday that its economy grew 10.7 percent in 2006, the fastest pace in more than a decade, amid growing signs of inflation.
The stronger-than-expected growth was largely propelled by soaring exports, stronger retail sales, a manufacturing boom and huge investments in new buildings, roads and cities.
But the economy continues to charge ahead, climbing from 9.1 percent in 2002 to 10.4 percent in 2005 and 10.7 percent last year, the fourth consecutive year of double-digit economic growth.
Beijing is also under pressure to allow the Chinese currency, known as the yuan or renminbi, to appreciate more quickly against the dollar in the hopes of easing the country's mammoth trade surplus with the United States.
The yuan has appreciated against the dollar, strengthening to 7.77 yuan to the dollar Thursday from 8.26 in 2005.
I'd say 2006 was about the best year in a decade — fast growth and low inflation," said Shen Minggao, an economist at Citigroup in Beijing. "This is impressive."
Stock prices are another concern. After falling to their lowest level in six years in mid-2005, stock prices in Shanghai have nearly tripled in a record run.
The Chinese central bank said that for the first time in five years, bank savings of mainland residents slid in October from the month before as more money went into the stock market.
“China’s gross domestic product (GDP) totalled nearly 20.95 trillion yuan (US$2.7 trillion) in 2006, 10.7 percent more than in 2005, according to figures provided by the National Bureau of Statistics (NBS) on January 25, 2007. This was the largest growth spurt since 1995,
China’s fixed-asset investments totalled 10.99 trillion yuan (US$1.41 trillion) in 2006, up 24 percent for the year
Consumer spending grew more slowly, suggesting China still faces challenges in its effort to reduce reliance on exports and to narrow its trade gap by boosting domestic consumption. China’s consumer price index (CPI) grew by 1.5 percent in 2006 over the previous year, the NBS reported. The growth rate was three-tenths of a percentage point lower than the previous year.
The value-added output of all industrial enterprises in China grew 12.5 percent year-on-year in 2006,
China’s retail sales increased by 13.7 percent to 7.64 trillion yuan (US$979.62 billion) in 2006,
Chinese urban and rural residents both experienced double-digit growth in their incomes in 2006, the NBS reported. Urban residents in China earned 11,759 yuan (US$1,500) in per-capita disposable income in 2006, up 12.1 percent from the year earlier, according to the NBS. In 2006, rural residents in China saw their incomes increase by 10.2 percent to 3,587 yuan (US$460).
“Auto Industry
There were 117 passenger vehicle types on the Chinese market in 2006. More than 30 of them used domestically developed design ideas, including the Chang’an’ Benben, Chery’s QQ6, the Hongqi HQ3, FAW Car’s Besturn and Brilliance China Auto’s Zhonghua Junjie. Since China entered the WTO in 2001, auto sales have increased by an annual average of 36 percent.
China has become the fourth-largest auto manufacturing country in the world. There are more than 5,800 auto and auto part manufacturers with combined assets of over 1 trillion yuan (US$126 billion) today
Biotech
China is becoming more influential in the global biotech industry. US and European scientists may increasingly notice that many of the test tubes and tips and certain reagents used in their laboratories have been manufactured in China. But many executives may not recognize the name BioAsia Company––a Shanghai-based bio-services provider that the US biotech product and service giant Invitrogen Corporation recently acquired. They may also be unaware that SiBiono GeneTech Company Limited, the first company in the world to receive regulatory approval by any agency for a gene therapy, is based in Shenzhen.
“Solar-Powered Energy
The solar-powered energy industry is growing in China as the country seeks clean, cheap and renewable sources of energy. A solar energy system jointly constructed by BP and its Chinese partners was successfully put into operation in 2005 at the Shenzhen International Garden and Flower Exposition,
In 2004, Suntech, based in Wuxi, Jiangsu Province, became the first “solar energy concept” stock to be traded on Wall Street;
Semiconductors
Vimicro became the first Chinese semiconductor firm to trade shares on the NASDAQ when it went public on November 15, 2005. Vimcro’s NASDAQ listing was followed by an initial public offering (IPO) by Actions Semiconductor Company, another Chinese chip-design firm. Both IPOs fell short of expectations. This indicated that it will likely take time for investors to understand the profitability of Chinese chip design enterprises. Chip design is the highest value-added business in the semiconductor industry, accounting for 40 percent of the value chain.
By 2004, there were 421 chip design firms throughout the country, with total annual revenues of 8.15 billion yuan (US$1 billion
Friday, January 18, 2008
China experience
Nice place to live...but for ...you have to forger tapri Chay, pan, constant bak bak. I and my wife are here...new experiences ...culture, language learning, seeing places.
Have been around a bit. Yixing, Nanging, Souzhou, Shanghai, Beijing, Hongzhou, Yanchang. Quite a bit in 9 months.
Also know Ouchan, Care four, Wall mart. Metro as there is nothing else to do.
Third ...movies on CDs...
Business...China growing...business not really.
Double digit growth for 5th year in succession.
From 2005..Fast and sound was changed to Sound and fast development..Quality of growth is more important..balanced and sustainable development.
Inflation in 2007 was at 11 yrs high at 6.9%(bench mark was 3%) Pork prices were at 60% inflated level.
Excess liquidity: Trade surplus is exp at 250 Bil USD.
RMB has appreciated 11% since yuan de-pegging in 2005 July.
Peoples bank of China raised interest rates 6 times during 2007.CRR was raised 10 times to a record high of 14.5%.
Energy consume / unit of GDP was brought down by 3% and SO2 and chemical oxygen dropped 1st time.
Income tax for both Chinese funded and foreign funded enterprises will be same at 25%.
Labour Contract Law and Employment Promotion law adopted for protecting rights of the people.
"Made in China" phrase suffered from unprecedented "crisis of confidence" in 2007. Recall of China made toys by "Mitel Inc." triggered the fuse...products ranging from tooth paste to food. Four month nation wide campaign launched to restore confidence.
Have been around a bit. Yixing, Nanging, Souzhou, Shanghai, Beijing, Hongzhou, Yanchang. Quite a bit in 9 months.
Also know Ouchan, Care four, Wall mart. Metro as there is nothing else to do.
Third ...movies on CDs...
Business...China growing...business not really.
Double digit growth for 5th year in succession.
From 2005..Fast and sound was changed to Sound and fast development..Quality of growth is more important..balanced and sustainable development.
Inflation in 2007 was at 11 yrs high at 6.9%(bench mark was 3%) Pork prices were at 60% inflated level.
Excess liquidity: Trade surplus is exp at 250 Bil USD.
RMB has appreciated 11% since yuan de-pegging in 2005 July.
Peoples bank of China raised interest rates 6 times during 2007.CRR was raised 10 times to a record high of 14.5%.
Energy consume / unit of GDP was brought down by 3% and SO2 and chemical oxygen dropped 1st time.
Income tax for both Chinese funded and foreign funded enterprises will be same at 25%.
Labour Contract Law and Employment Promotion law adopted for protecting rights of the people.
"Made in China" phrase suffered from unprecedented "crisis of confidence" in 2007. Recall of China made toys by "Mitel Inc." triggered the fuse...products ranging from tooth paste to food. Four month nation wide campaign launched to restore confidence.
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